Shapeoko #0735, mods evolution... (at least my version) ;-)

Shapeoko #0735, mods evolution... (at least my version) ;-)

Postby wlanfox » Sat Dec 08, 2012 11:25 am

I got my shapeOko Mechanical kit a few months ago and I have been CNCing since then. At some point I felt I needed more working space and accessibility. Also been watching all the different upgrades and ideas people have been coming with. Here it is how my machine has been evolving. hopefully others will find this inspiring or useful for their builds...

So how does it look now? here it is...
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And where did we came from and how we got here!? :-)

First time completed assembly and test the good old days (3 months ago)..
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So lest take it all apart and start over...
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Withe the double beam on the X-axis gantry there was a little parallel play between the back plate and the front plate holding the Z-axis. I solved this by adding HDPE pieces to form a solid block instead on relying only on the screws to prevent the parallel sliding of the plates from one an other. The double beam is probably too much for this size, I am experimenting as I will like to go wider later 1000mm or larger (why not), also get more rigidity on the gantry.

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Almost there, also changed the Spindle mount.
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some movement test...


now actually do a real test...


Now one of the things I want to use my machine for is milling PCBs. I have been playing around with different settings trying to get a good hold in accuracy and repeat-ability. I am using single stepper drivers TB6560 type (this is not the 4-axis controller or nothing like that, they do have the good fast optos) the steppers motors are the ones form Sparkfun Electronics 400/rev (0.9 degree per step).

Using a digital caliper I run trough a number of test doing segment hop 3.5,7,10.5 (basically 3.5 hops), also run same test but every movement starting from 0, 0-3.5, 0-7, 0-10.5, etc. also run the same measurements with 2.6. interestingly enough the average precision was best at 1/2 micro-stepping and got worse at 1, 1/8 and 1/16. This was at 0.08mm average. some numbers....

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Re: Shapeoko #0735, mods evolution... (at least my version)

Postby Archangel » Sat Dec 08, 2012 2:08 pm

The slabs of hdpe between the x plates is an awesome solution for dual x rails!
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Re: Shapeoko #0735, mods evolution... (at least my version)

Postby wlanfox » Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:24 pm

Archangel wrote:The slabs of hdpe between the x plates is an awesome solution for dual x rails!


Thanks, after putting the block together it all feels very solid and there is no visible sliding at all. FYI at the time I was kicking myself I didn't think about it before before disassembling the CNC, I could of have cut the pieces on the CNC instead of having to do them by HAND...
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Re: Shapeoko #0735, mods evolution... (at least my version)

Postby cvoinescu » Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:02 pm

I like the plastic parts very much, but what piqued my interest where the bolts. Where on Earth did you find fully threaded cap screws that long?
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Re: Shapeoko #0735, mods evolution... (at least my version)

Postby edwardrford » Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:21 pm

wlanfox wrote:
Archangel wrote:The slabs of hdpe between the x plates is an awesome solution for dual x rails!


Thanks, after putting the block together it all feels very solid and there is no visible sliding at all. FYI at the time I was kicking myself I didn't think about it before before disassembling the CNC, I could of have cut the pieces on the CNC instead of having to do them by HAND...


Those are really great mods! I'm so jealous how clean yours looks. It's really nice. What extrusions did you use for the T-slot table? Where did you get that e-chain! It's sweet.


I think that piece between could be made as two pieces with pocket cut for the joining bolt holes. Put together the pockets would become channels, and then the two pieces could be bolted together from the top/bottom. This way no manual drilling would b required.

Awesome job!

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Re: Shapeoko #0735, mods evolution... (at least my version)

Postby wlanfox » Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:11 am

cvoinescu wrote:I like the plastic parts very much, but what piqued my interest where the bolts. Where on Earth did you find fully threaded cap screws that long?


You are correct I look every where and also came short on finding screws 100mm in length which are threaded all the way, so I made my own from M5 threaded rod and nylon lock nuts + super-glue just to make sure that end wasn't going any where... the rod is similar to this but I found it in a local store http://www.amazon.com/AMI-METRICS-INC-Threaded-Rod-Metric/dp/B000NE8N8Y/ref=pd_rhf_se_p_t_2
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Re: Shapeoko #0735, mods evolution... (at least my version)

Postby wlanfox » Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:26 am

edwardrford wrote:
wlanfox wrote:
Archangel wrote:The slabs of hdpe between the x plates is an awesome solution for dual x rails!


Thanks, after putting the block together it all feels very solid and there is no visible sliding at all. FYI at the time I was kicking myself I didn't think about it before before disassembling the CNC, I could of have cut the pieces on the CNC instead of having to do them by HAND...


Those are really great mods! I'm so jealous how clean yours looks. It's really nice. What extrusions did you use for the T-slot table? Where did you get that e-chain! It's sweet.


I think that piece between could be made as two pieces with pocket cut for the joining bolt holes. Put together the pockets would become channels, and then the two pieces could be bolted together from the top/bottom. This way no manual drilling would b required.

Awesome job!

Edward


Hi Edward,

The extrusions are 8 x 495mm length profile 5 (got them on ebay by a store or seller items), I wanted the dimensionless to be the same profile as the makerslide, these are 20mm height x 60mm wide, I got two 20mm x 40mm x 500mm extrusions from inventables these are where the 4 end-plates attach to and all 8 extrusions also bolt down to. The e-chain I got on ebay... 1000MM Cable drag chain wire carrier 18*25*R28/R38/48 http://www.ebay.com/itm/220901343363?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649.

Using pockets to joining the middle pieces its a good idea, because it took some tinkering to get the drill all the way across, if this could be avoided it will be great.
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Re: Shapeoko #0735, mods evolution... (at least my version)

Postby rpe » Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:14 pm

Cool build!!!! How is the shaft drive working out?
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Re: Shapeoko #0735, mods evolution... (at least my version)

Postby wlanfox » Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:04 am

rpe wrote:Cool build!!!! How is the shaft drive working out?


So far no issues, I am using stainless steel rod; I can see there is a little give (rod has a slide "U" shape) if I tension the belts too much. This is of course because the idle wheels are below the drive pulley and every time I tension the belt I am basically pulling down on the pulley. But I am working on a fix for this issues. If one looks closer at the problem this is because that the rod is only held at the ends. One possible fix is to add two more bearings to hold the pulleys on both the outside and the inside side. I was thinking about creating dust covers for the Y-axis wheels and just happens that this will also add a mounting point for a second bearing in the inside side of the pulley.

This is what I am planing on making, top and bottom pieces of HDPE and cover of thick plexi-glass at least 5mm or more to be able to hold the inside bearing and provide the additional support to prevent the flexing of the rod due to down force on the pulley from the belt. Also I might just go with all HDPE make it one piece.

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As other mention on other threads, there could also be torque issues, but I am not-planing on milling any hard materials, mainly HDPE, wood, MDF, PCB, etc....
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Re: Shapeoko #0735, mods evolution... (at least my version)

Postby PsyKo » Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:49 am

Nice work you have done so far.

How did you assemble your T-Slot table ?
I'm planning to buy these one http://fr.misumi-ec.com/eu/ItemDetail/10302261820.html (HSFQN4-15250), ut I'm not sure how to assemble them together, and with the base extrusion (rail where the plates are).

And BTW, what is the long threaded rod made for ? (between the 2 Y axis motor )

Keep up the good mod :)
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